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by BiscuitRanger » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:06 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:45 pm
Could the kneeling be divisive?
Could the...
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by UxbridgeR » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:27 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:52 pm
UxbridgeR wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:14 pm
Players have been taking the knee for nearly two years, but now we're on a poor run of form, it's divisive.
Proper galaxy brain take there, mate.
Yeah, cos all the other teams are still making the gesture.
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by 222gers » Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:07 pm
BiscuitRanger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:06 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:45 pm
Could the kneeling be divisive?
Could the...
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I doubt if it's their diet. They all get plenty of heavily salted and sweetened animal fat washed down with surgical spirits.
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by stainesranger » Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:19 am
Listening to the commentary yesterday focussed around Chair’s loss of form and rediscovery of it in that match, I reckon most likely scenario is afcon did it.
Chair and Dieng didn’t automatically take their places back and they were both key members of the team in terms of being strong characters and important players.
Chair’s form being patchy since he came back has been a big blow. Just a theory but it seems plausible.
Injuries undoubtedly a big problem too. Even when we were flying we were pretty reliant on a bit of magic from either Willock or Chair.
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by BiscuitRanger » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:48 am
stainesranger wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:19 am
Listening to the commentary yesterday focussed around Chair’s loss of form and rediscovery of it in that match, I reckon most likely scenario is afcon did it.
Chair and Dieng didn’t automatically take their places back and they were both key members of the team in terms of being strong characters and important players.
Chair’s form being patchy since he came back has been a big blow. Just a theory but it seems plausible.
Injuries undoubtedly a big problem too. Even when we were flying we were pretty reliant on a bit of magic from either Willock or Chair.
Oh I'd fully agree with you on both AFCON and injuries.
I think many players are suffering from Montag's-Knee. LOL. Which century are you living in?
Taking a knee to support BLM is

right for me... But it's a personal choice.... Hardly benefitting of any squad disharmony amongst grown men.
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by ZENITH R » Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:10 am
stainesranger wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:19 am
Listening to the commentary yesterday focussed around Chair’s loss of form and rediscovery of it in that match, I reckon most likely scenario is afcon did it.
Chair and Dieng didn’t automatically take their places back and they were both key members of the team in terms of being strong characters and important players.
Chair’s form being patchy since he came back has been a big blow. Just a theory but it seems plausible.
Injuries undoubtedly a big problem too. Even when we were flying we were pretty reliant on a bit of magic from either Willock or Chair.
I think he (Chair) played 30 minutes of the first game at the ACN, was subbed and then didn't get another kick. That would dent the confidence.
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by Montag » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:32 pm
UxbridgeR wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:27 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:52 pm
UxbridgeR wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:14 pm
Players have been taking the knee for nearly two years, but now we're on a poor run of form, it's divisive.
Proper galaxy brain take there, mate.
Yeah, cos all the other teams are still making the gesture.
Great comeback, man. Is Trump still President ?
I never went away. Is anyone President is the question? And how is he or whatever it is doing?

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by Montag » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:34 pm
Actually, I think injuries and a threadbare squad is the reason for the downturn. It usually is.
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by Montag » Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:35 pm
BiscuitRanger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:06 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:45 pm
Could the kneeling be divisive?
Could the...
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no
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by BiscuitRanger » Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:39 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:35 pm
BiscuitRanger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:06 pm
Montag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:45 pm
Could the kneeling be divisive?
Could the...
Team selection
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Tactics
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...be divisive ?
no
Well I admire your decisiveness .. thanks for the education.
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by deadendjob » Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:27 am
Montag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:34 pm
Actually, I think injuries and a threadbare squad is the reason for the downturn. It usually is.
Uh, It's clearly because the players are taking the knee. It's the only logical explanation.
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by Montag » Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:22 pm
deadendjob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:27 am
Montag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:34 pm
Actually, I think injuries and a threadbare squad is the reason for the downturn. It usually is.
Uh, It's clearly because the players are taking the knee. It's the only logical explanation.
When these footballers insist on being paid the same wage as a Tesco delivery driver then I will have some time for their gesture politics. There's nothing logical about any of it. Besides, it is common knowledge that not all footballers are happy about it.
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by WA Hoop » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:13 am
Montag wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:22 pm
deadendjob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:27 am
Montag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:34 pm
Actually, I think injuries and a threadbare squad is the reason for the downturn. It usually is.
Uh, It's clearly because the players are taking the knee. It's the only logical explanation.
When these footballers insist on being paid the same wage as a Tesco delivery driver then I will have some time for their
gesture politics. There's nothing logical about any of it. Besides, it is common knowledge that not all footballers are happy about it.
Well, even our own DOF has long since intimated it as such. I do wonder how long our partial (rather than collective) 'taking the knee' could or should persist...hopefully not as long as Leeds proclaiming themselves 'Champions of Europe'.
Anyway, I don't think it has much, if anything to do with our unfortunate 'cliff fall'. Today, I would just like to see us getting right behind the team and airing a fair few renditions of 'Warburton's Blue and White Army'.

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by UxbridgeR » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:08 am
Montag wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:22 pm
deadendjob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:27 am
Montag wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:34 pm
Actually, I think injuries and a threadbare squad is the reason for the downturn. It usually is.
Uh, It's clearly because the players are taking the knee. It's the only logical explanation.
When these footballers insist on being paid the same wage as a Tesco delivery driver then I will have some time for their gesture politics. There's nothing logical about any of it. Besides, it is common knowledge that not all footballers are happy about it.
We get it. You don't agree with taking the knee. You are however literally the only person I've seen suggest it's suddenly responsible for division in the squad. Based on what exactly ?
QPR players started taking it as a team when everyone else did 21 months ago, but stopped doing so as a collective a few months later, believing its impact to have been diluted. Ever since then, players have quite rightly had the option to take it or not do so. A matter of personal choice. Since that point, the team has had a great run of form across more than a calendar year, and a poor run for the last couple of months. Nothing around taking the knee has changed in that time. There's not a scintilla of evidence to back up your theory.
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by dm » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:21 am
I'm surprised posters haven't seen how many football managers up and down the country have been sacked for allowing their players to take the knee. Warburton is clearly just another one.