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[W13hoop]

meanwhile back at HQ old TB has decided to cancel first his book signing and now his book party at the Tate due to worries about protesters.

Excellent news.

The bastard is not welcome in his own nation , keep on running Tony preferably off a cliff.

[W13hoop]

errr if you watch the whole video stan im sure you will be able to see it.
its behind her head on 50 seconds - still standing tall as she reports it has already fallen.

amazing insight that....

Larry Silverstein ' we decided to pull it '

nice work Larry how much did that make you?

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html?q=silverstein.html

[Stan]

[W13hoop]

Stan I will watch your video now , but can you comment on the fact that the BBC reported it had fallen before it actually did ? explain that?

[Stan]

very easily. The FDNY told the BBC, infact all the news agencies, that it was going to collapse 2 hours before it did. That's when the FDNY pulled out of the building. Every other agency reported it was going to collapse. The BBC got it wrong.

You're making so many allegations, but you haven't thought any of them through. Let's say the BBC did know that it was going to collapse because they were somehow in on it. Why would they be in on the conspiracy? Why the BBC? I'm afraid your allegation just doesn't make any sence if taken to it's full conclusion.
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[W13hoop]

its clear that building 7 was hit by debris from the controlled demolition of the twin towers i do not dispute that.
And its clear that this debris caused damage to the building.
However its worth noting WTC7 was no small weak building it was 47 stories tall.

I do not believe that the debris and any subsequent fires could have resulted in the the complete collapse of the building - no way.

The quote in the clip is from Dr Sunder who from NIST who were asked to do a study on the collapse by the government.

The credibility of his study is in question as detailed below by one of the architects and engineers for truth.

http://world911truth.org/open-letter-to-nist-by-richard-gage/

http://www.wtc7.net/

[Stan]

[W13hoop]

the FDNY told the BBC!? really!? where did you get that from?

Its odd that within hours of the attack taking place already people were pointing the finger of blame to Osama bin laden and his brothers in the tora bora caves!

The Israeli war criminal Ehud Barak just happened to be able to do a live interview in the BBC studios on 9/11 talking us through this terror and how we must fight it together.... all off the cuff of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Zj1fnGtjk


and perhaps you are in the minority who believes the official story Stan?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/111104cnnpoll.htm

[Stan]

[AndyB]

I notice that you have totally ignored my post on your nonsense about the trade-towers W13 with your comment about the "controlled demolition".

Was it too complex for you? Are you only able to take in stuff that agrees with your general beliefs - or can you accept something that contradicts your side of the story and is actually probably the truth?

Your side:
Somone managed to plant explosives into critical parts of the building to ensure collapse.
How?
Have you seen the prep for a normal controlled demolition? The building is a shell. They drill into specific parts to plant the explosives. It's a highly skilled task and a massive project. Add into the convert aspect that would be required - and you have a logistical nightmare. Tens of floors affected.
The right explosives, the right amounts at the right time.
No-one seems to have reported strange men drilling for weeks on end.

Another theory to which I have alluded to:
The fires weakened the structure which collapsed on itself - downwards.

It is established fact that the towers did NOT freefall due to the time it took to fall.
It is established fact that detonations could not be seen outside from the ground upwards as happens with ALL other controlled demolitions of buildings witnessed worldwide. (most videotaped - take a look)

I will stop there. Which looks more plausible to an outsider with no axe to grind or cross to bear? Be honest.

We can get onto WTC7 if you wish - but I think the videos posted here and everywhere on the net do it for me.

[AndyB]

Oh I forgot to nudge you about the other pictures that the nutters claim is a missile slung under the belly of the second aircraft.
How about that one?

Pretty conclusive eh? Well, maybe not conclusive - but it all adds up.
Go on - cite it, please.

Or how about the holes in the pentagon? Too small. Engine holes not obvious, fuselage hole too narrow, tail hole hardly there at all.

Go on, pleeeeease.....

I have to fess-up that I am an Aircraft Engineer so might offer some possible alternatives - but i'm not sure. You might know more about it than I do, which is fair play.

[Stan]

[AndyB]

Have seen a lot of them before Stan.

I was being a teeny-weeny bit sarcastic in my last post by the way.

[W13hoop]

irrefutable evidence!?! haha that's a good one Stan.

There were 82 cameras on or around the pentagon filming that day yet NOT ONE still frame was released that showed a passenger plane.

If we are to believe the official story then that would mean that not one of those 82 cameras managed to capture a single bit of footage of this supposed passenger plane hitting the pentagon.

I simply do not believe that that could have been the case.

Its odd how when an even like this happens all these CCTV cameras never appear to work or have any footage that is of use isn't it.

[W13hoop]

Andy fires do not cause buildings to collapse.

In the history of the world only 3 building have ever collapsed due to fire... all three of those were on 9/11.