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UxbridgeR
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| RLHOOP wrote: | | Everyone is the wisest person when blessed with hindsight. You need to take gambles in life otherwise you never get anywhere. Our board are all successful in their own right and made the decision to go down the route they did. If it fails then that is unfortunate, but it is not stating that thins would have been any different if Warnock had stayed. |
How is that relevant ? Running a football club is rather different to running an airline or a steel company, You might as well argue that they're successful businessmen who don't do... oh.
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I'm guessing (some/many) of the fans of the other clubs will be unhappy with the way things are going for them and looking at clubs around them and worrying about who has the players that might change things. Probably Yakubu's name will crop up but alongside him Cisse, Zamora (and our other signings) will probably get a mention while looking at the other clubs in "the five" who (if anyone) have they got that turn their fortunes around?
And frankly I don't care if it's only the failings of others that saves us. |
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RLHOOP
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| UxbridgeR wrote: | | RLHOOP wrote: | | Everyone is the wisest person when blessed with hindsight. You need to take gambles in life otherwise you never get anywhere. Our board are all successful in their own right and made the decision to go down the route they did. If it fails then that is unfortunate, but it is not stating that thins would have been any different if Warnock had stayed. |
How is that relevant ? Running a football club is rather different to running an airline or a steel company, You might as well argue that they're successful businessmen who don't do... oh. |
It has everything to do with it. It is all about not being afraid to make decisions. We may not agree with Warnocks exit so early, but we can either sit and complain about what might have been or back the changes.
IMO losing Faurlin is the single biggest factor, if he was still here I feel we would have beaten Wolves, Blackburn and Fulham. |
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UxbridgeR
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| RLHOOP wrote: | It has everything to do with it. It is all about not being afraid to make decisions. We may not agree with Warnocks exit so early, but we can either sit and complain about what might have been or back the changes.
IMO losing Faurlin is the single biggest factor, if he was still here I feel we would have beaten Wolves, Blackburn and Fulham. |
It's the same argument you used throughout the Briatore years, when we were sacking managers every six months,as though making a decision was somehow an end in itself. Sometimes the best decision is to hold fire and work with what you've got.
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| UxbridgeR wrote: | | RLHOOP wrote: | It has everything to do with it. It is all about not being afraid to make decisions. We may not agree with Warnocks exit so early, but we can either sit and complain about what might have been or back the changes.
IMO losing Faurlin is the single biggest factor, if he was still here I feel we would have beaten Wolves, Blackburn and Fulham. |
It's the same argument you used throughout the Briatore years, when we were sacking managers every six months,as though making a decision was somehow an end in itself. Sometimes the best decision is to hold fire and work with what you've got. |
Continually lamenting decisions (Good or bad) gets us nowhere though.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| UxbridgeR wrote: | | RLHOOP wrote: | It has everything to do with it. It is all about not being afraid to make decisions. We may not agree with Warnocks exit so early, but we can either sit and complain about what might have been or back the changes.
IMO losing Faurlin is the single biggest factor, if he was still here I feel we would have beaten Wolves, Blackburn and Fulham. |
It's the same argument you used throughout the Briatore years, when we were sacking managers every six months,as though making a decision was somehow an end in itself. Sometimes the best decision is to hold fire and work with what you've got. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I am not saying it has been nice. It has been a painful few years. I wouldn't compare those from previous to those now though. It's black and white. |
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UxbridgeR
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| Dunc wrote: | | Continually lamenting decisions (Good or bad) gets us nowhere though. |
I'm not lamenting it - just pointing out that arguing that Warnock "had to go" and then claiming there's no reason to worry when we've only taken 4 points from 21 under a new manager and against the teams who are in a relegation scrap with us doesn't really stack up.
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| UxbridgeR wrote: | | Dunc wrote: | | Continually lamenting decisions (Good or bad) gets us nowhere though. |
I'm not lamenting it - just pointing out that arguing that Warnock "had to go" and then claiming there's no reason to worry when we've only taken 4 points from 21 under a new manager and against the teams who are in a relegation scrap with us doesn't really stack up. |
No one is arguing he 'had to go'. He didn't. I don't think they even thought that, but they were looking to progress (in their eyes) and the choice was made to bring in Hughes. |
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| UxbridgeR wrote: | | Dunc wrote: | | Continually lamenting decisions (Good or bad) gets us nowhere though. |
I'm not lamenting it - just pointing out that arguing that Warnock "had to go" and then claiming there's no reason to worry when we've only taken 4 points from 21 under a new manager and against the teams who are in a relegation scrap with us doesn't really stack up. |
It's actually 4 from 18 for Hughes, and in the previous 8 PL games under Warnock we got 2 points.
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| Esox Lucius wrote: | | I don't. I think he was all out of ideas. The MK Dons 1st match demonstrated that. Piss poor. |
The same could be said about the first half at Blackburn. |
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Well I'm personally looking forward to Uncle Tony going round the pubs and ground before the Everton game to listen to the natives no doubt telling him he shouldn't have fired Neil, Hughes is a know nothing tw@t and when are we getting the old badge back....
perm 3 from 5, my old mate said....
Just are we less shite than at least 3 others?
Where we are in the table in May is up to the players now, we know theres is some quality in this squad....
A number of them will not be getting huge bonus's they may have been looking forward to, others see permanent transfers disappear and some no doubt activating relegation clauses if they fail us (dependent no doubt on if someone else will pay the same wages as us).....
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| dave B wrote: | | we've hardly been full of ideas since he left, all down to the players imo, they were gutless under Warnock and nothing has changed. |
Gutless players(bar a few notable exceptions), who simply aren't interested in playing for QPR... only what they pay them. Wouldn't matter who is in charge - we'll be relegated long before May. Next seasons first priority, is to find a team and system that will make LR a less comfortable place for opposition teams: our malaise at home since last April has cost us any chance we had of surviving. In my 37 odd years supporting Rangers, I don't think I've seen a worse set of home performances(and we've still got Arse,Scousers and Spuz to come)  |
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| Esox Lucius wrote: | | SuperhoopDownunder wrote: | Change the captain - Barton is not a leader.
He is hardly a Glenn Roeder, Terry Fenwick, Gerry Francis, Alan McDonald, Tony Currie to name a few captains that I respected and I believe knew the importance of leading the hoops. |
Ray Wilkins. Mike Keen. After saturdays display I think Gus Ceasar would have made a better captain. |
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| Mr Beef wrote: | | Esox Lucius wrote: | | I don't. I think he was all out of ideas. The MK Dons 1st match demonstrated that. Piss poor. |
The same could be said about the first half at Blackburn. |
Except Blackburn are a Premier League club with Premier League players while MK Dons aren't even in the League One automatic promotion places.
And at Blackburn we at least had a decent 20-30 minutes play to enjoy while at MK we had just one minute (OK, maybe two).. |
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