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Django Level 1 dot.orger


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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| ongarr wrote: | | Dont like Dyer at full back, |
I thought he had a fantastic gane there for us against spurs. They have some excellent wide players and he did a first rate job against them. Yes I agree, I would prefer to see him in midfield but while we are struggling to find 4 fit defenders he'll do for me.  _________________ We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Apart from pain. And maybe humiliation and obviously death. And failure. But apart from fear, pain and humiliation, failure and the unknown and death we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Who’s with me? |
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avigar Level 2 dot.orger


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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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It seemed to me that Dyer was coping well only because Bale was playing full-back instead of AssouEkotto. When AVB moved him to the wing then they looked dangerous and looked more likely to score _________________ If Chelsea were playing in my garden, I would close the curtains!
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hammersmith_hoop Level 1 dot.orger

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Django wrote: | | ongarr wrote: | | Dont like Dyer at full back, |
I thought he had a fantastic gane there for us against spurs. They have some excellent wide players and he did a first rate job against them. Yes I agree, I would prefer to see him in midfield but while we are struggling to find 4 fit defenders he'll do for me.  |
He didn't have a good game against Reading there. |
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hammersmith_hoop Level 1 dot.orger

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Onuoha......Mbia..........Nelsen....Hill isn't a bad back four at all tbf. God knows why people are suggesting Dyer..Nelsen...Hill...Onouha
Why would you have Onouha left back when Hill has done quite well there in the past?
Park...Faurlin...Granero...Hoilett
.....Zamora...Cisse..... |
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Think I'd go for
Cesar
Dyer, Nelsen, Hill, Onouha
M'Bia/Diakite
Park Granero Hoillet
Cisse Zamora
Back 4 is obviously assuming Traore isn't back, if he is replace Dyer and switch Onouha.
Would like to see Granero or Faurlin play with a more defensive minded midfielder. Assuming Faurlin might need a rest, I've gone with a M'Bia or Diakite sitting behind Granero. _________________
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hammersmith_hoop Level 1 dot.orger

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Diakite isn't a defensive midfielder though |
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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All I will say is that if Adel is fit he has to play. I'm losing patience with Hughes & his refusal to play Adel. _________________ next year, we'll be champions.. |
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Devonranger Level 3 dot.orger

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hughes played Adel against Swansea and we lost 5-0.
He saw more of the ball in that game than any other Rangers player - don't get me wrong, Adel can be quality but I wish sometimes reasonable levels were applied when judging players and managers at Rangers.
Adel can add to our attacking play but he will also leave gaps defensively, which we can ill afford based on current form. He wasted a lot of decent possession in the Swansea game but the likes of SWP get slaughtered for wasting less possession.
Similar with Hughes, I get the impression that he is not every fans cup of tea, and given the opportunity, most seem to want shot of him. I hope the club stick by him and give him a chance - think there are positive signs throughout the team, and whatever is said, the injuries defensively are having an impact.
Similarly, we do need a further period for the most recent signings to settle in - given a bit more time, I am certain the team and results will settle down for the better. |
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Devonranger Level 3 dot.orger

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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hughes played Adel against Swansea and we lost 5-0.
He saw more of the ball in that game than any other Rangers player - don't get me wrong, Adel can be quality but I wish sometimes reasonable levels were applied when judging players and managers at Rangers.
Adel can add to our attacking play but he will also leave gaps defensively, which we can ill afford based on current form. He wasted a lot of decent possession in the Swansea game but the likes of SWP get slaughtered for wasting less possession.
Similar with Hughes, I get the impression that he is not every fans cup of tea, and given the opportunity, most seem to want shot of him. I hope the club stick by him and give him a chance - think there are positive signs throughout the team, and whatever is said, the injuries defensively are having an impact.
Similarly, we do need a further period for the most recent signings to settle in - given a bit more time, I am certain the team and results will settle down for the better. |
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I am another who can see Hughes playing Mbia in front of the back 4. This would allow Granero and Faurlin to play a little higher up the field supporting the attack more.
So for me a sort of 433.
Cesar
Dyer - Hill - Nelsen - Onuoha
Granero - Mbia - Faurlin
Park - Zamora - Hoilett
Dyer is able to give attacking width on the right with Park covering and Hoilett is able to play quite a free role as Onuoha isn't doesn't get forward much. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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| dm wrote: | I am another who can see Hughes playing Mbia in front of the back 4. This would allow Granero and Faurlin to play a little higher up the field supporting the attack more.
So for me a sort of 433.
Cesar
Dyer - Hill - Nelsen - Onuoha
Granero - Mbia - Faurlin
Park - Zamora - Hoilett
Dyer is able to give attacking width on the right with Park covering and Hoilett is able to play quite a free role as Onuoha isn't doesn't get forward much. |
Interesting side, although with that back 4 I'd switch Onuoha and Hill.
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Is anyone aware of Faurlin's availability? _________________ All or nothing! |
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hammersmith_hoop Level 1 dot.orger

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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Devonranger wrote: | Hughes played Adel against Swansea and we lost 5-0.
He saw more of the ball in that game than any other Rangers player - don't get me wrong, Adel can be quality but I wish sometimes reasonable levels were applied when judging players and managers at Rangers.
Adel can add to our attacking play but he will also leave gaps defensively, which we can ill afford based on current form. He wasted a lot of decent possession in the Swansea game but the likes of SWP get slaughtered for wasting less possession. |
Did you even see that game?
Taarabt was one of the few players that had a decentish game. The reason we lost that is because we played Diakite in defensive midfield along side Park, who was all over the the place and we had Fabio spending the whole game in the Swansea half. |
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Devonranger Level 3 dot.orger

Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 3174 Location: Exeter
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I was trying to make the point that whilst judging all of our other players for errors and mistakes, Adel too made mistakes anf for a key player, perhaps might have hoped for more based on the amount of ball he was afforded by the team in that game. |
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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what ever we do we need two up front - Zamora can't play against four every week and hope we nick a goal. We're breaking well and getting the ball across only to find SWP as the only target _________________ Keep the faith - we're QPR forever |
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