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deepseahoop · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:25 am Post subject:

no they certainly don't mess around do they especially when it comes to shooting innocent people, stealing land and acting like twats around the world.
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Micky · Level 5 dot.orger Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 6285

ccurrie · Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 17

I think liberality is a good argument for the discouragement of these types of war. But at the same time, I feel the promotion of peace is a better one. Yes, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were probably unjustified, and the proposed war on Iran, too, but what irritates me most is that these wars cause little but to perpetuate the Islamic disposition towards our country, and thus the potential for further Islamic extremism to our country, which ironically, is what we are trying to prevent.

How about us arrogant Westerners leave them to solve their own funking problems?!? What we don't realise is that they have a quite justified reason to hate us. They're not just angry Muslims for the sake of being angry Muslims. We involve ourselves in their problems, invade their land, kill their innocent men, women and children, and it results in nothing more than them hating us even more and thus creating a vicious cycle that only results in more death.

DAVEf · dot.org vip Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 21329

Small point (brought up before).

Scientists took small colonies of bacteria and split the colonies into two. One half they dyed red, the other half blue. The two halves immediately set about eah other.

Conflict with anything different (or perceived as different) seems to be hard-wired into all forms of Life as we know it so the peace option can be forgotten (at least until a lot more evolution has taken place) and the best apparent solution would seem to involve a system of balanced stand-offs and uneasy truces based on mutual fears and needs which would, at any time, be fragile and likely to fail.

Given that that's just how it is ideas of "peace" should surely be forgotten in favour of more acceptance of forms of pragmatic co-existence with systems of checks and punishments being widely accepted.

Obviously.

WestCountryRanger · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:12 pm Post subject:

W13hoop · Level 3 dot.orger Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 1319

its not your problem so you do not care to know who did 9/11 ?

that's a pretty blinkered mindset Dave.

So because 9/11 happened over the pond it doesn't really effect us so why care about it?

I would argue that it has had an impact on our nation , our soldiers have died in Iraq and Afghanistan and I do not think that would have been the case had 9/11 not happened.

Would be interested to know if anyone has watched the 9/11 Zero investigation I posted on here ?

Come on Stan tell me what you think of it ? Still believe it was all masterminded by Osama Bin Laden from a cave in Afghanistan!?

Laughing

deepseahoop · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:27 pm Post subject:

OK so I watched 10 minutes until they got to the Madrid tower block bit and decided that perhaps I'll watch it all another night.... Scary Sh1T though, imagine if its true Shocked

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Stan · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject:

are you a newly converted "truther" then?
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AndyB · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject:

What a load of old shite.

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W13hoop · Level 3 dot.orger Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 1319

Did you watch it Stan?

I would imagine it would be very difficult for you to watch...I mean if you believe the official story then your all powerful United States of America was shamefully embarrassed by a bunch of Arabs , your famed intelligence service the CIA failed on a almighty scale.

Where was NORAD ?

Its one of the biggest things about 9/11 that does not add up the fact that there were no fighter jets scrambled up to intercept the planes when they have up to an hour to do so! SURE BOB!

What were they all doing that day?

Dave I can start a thread about 7/7 if you like? Will you get involved in that as it is your problem ?

There are lots of suspicious things about that day too but nowhere near as many as on 9/11.

Come on Stan I dare you to watch the whole thing and challenge its contents!

Stan · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject:

I watched some of it.

There was nothing new in there as far as so called "truthers" are concerned. I read a few reviews on it aswell. Well produced it certainly was. Most said it's laughable that the video makes a big deal about the Italian being a Nobel winner yet neglecting to tell us that it was for literature!!

The stuff about the Pentagon has been proved BS many times. I cant believe they're still pumping the "hole was to small" line. That's been disproved so many times it's not even true!

Bottom line is I am not a engineer & neither are you. For every engineer who thinks it couldn't have happened the way the Govt says, I could produce 2 who says it could!

What's interesting is that you've posted 2 youtube videos disputing the official facts, but neither agree with each other!

As far as starting a 7/7 thread goes, do it.
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deepseahoop · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject:

W13hoop · Level 3 dot.orger Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Posts: 1319

so can you confirm that you believe the official version of 9/11 ?

its clear to me that the twin towers were controlled demolitions , numerous eye witness testimonies state people hearing bombs going off all over the towers before the collapse.

there is no way those two towers that were built to withstand passenger planes hitting them would collapse the way they did just as a result of the planes.

They fell at almost free fall speed FFS!

WTC7 that was not even mentioned in the official report!? it collapsed all by itself! no plane hit the tower - I know its difficult and distressing to think that perhaps your government could have been involved in this atrocious act but come on - wake up.

PNAC called for a new pearl harbour and they got in on 9/11 and we have had 9 years of US/western aggression since.

deepseahoop · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject:

if you want to be happy believe, if you want to know the truth then question..... is usually my motto but I've never trusted any of the bas**ards anyway so believing the "official" line isn't an option.
Sure there are some inaccuracies and the bit about the buildings is interesting and scary and all a bit Jason Bourne meets Bond meets The Empire. Not to say its not true but there would have to be lots of people involved in what would be one of the worlds most heinous crimes and I don't see anyone 'fessing up or spilling the beans.
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