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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Conservatives Reply with quote

anyone got anything positive to say? Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never voted Conservative in my life, but if they do get us back on track then I'll be tempted. And I like our new Tory MP.

It's solidly Tory down here - more so since the last Labour government made it clear than anyone outside the cities was lower than the shit on its shoes. The hunting ban was based purely on prejudice.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Conservatives Reply with quote

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I have. They're attempting to control & reduce the wild spending & deficit created by Labour.

That's got to be a good thing, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fiscal responsibilty is nothing to be frowned on. Wasting tax payers money and overspending has to be.

Ask that question to the IMF and see what their response is. Oh, sorry they have already answered.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I demand a drinking game based on the Tory Party Conference. Something like two fingers (oo-er Missus) for every mention of "hard working families", four fingers for "fiscal responsibility" and down your pint when the camera pans to an old codger who has fallen asleep. Get to work people.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry was that 2 fingers to hard working families! really pissed off as i use my child benefit to pay for the beer's before footie on a saturday
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there will be no more fruit shoots and cheesy string for my kids at breakfast then.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Conservatives Reply with quote

deepseahoop wrote:
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Yes. If we wait long enough they'll all be dead one day.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Conservatives Reply with quote

arriviste wrote:
Yes. If we wait long enough they'll all be dead one day.


You think?

To go all W13. The children's show Doctor Who is actually a secret testing ground. When Maggie looks like she's failing she will be transplanted into a Davros machine. As for the conservative they are actual daleks and will exterminate the lower classes as they are taking up too much room.

Who said hunting was banned?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don wrote:
The hunting ban was based purely on prejudice.


Maybe getting out of my depth here but surely the hunting ban was based on 2 things:

1. Most people (accepted that a lot of them don't live in the countryside) wanted it banned

2. That in a 'civilised' society how can going out with a pack of dogs that have been starved for days on end to rip another animal to pieces be seen as right?

Lets not get into the 'ritual' of blooding the young hunters after their first kill either.

Barbaric and totally unnecessary when there are suitable alternatives to control wildlife.

PS - I live in a rural area and have also seen first hand the damage hunts do to land and property in the name of conservation.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nige101uk wrote:
Don wrote:
The hunting ban was based purely on prejudice.


Maybe getting out of my depth here but surely the hunting ban was based on 2 things:

1. Most people (accepted that a lot of them don't live in the countryside) wanted it banned

2. That in a 'civilised' society how can going out with a pack of dogs that have been starved for days on end to rip another animal to pieces be seen as right?

Lets not get into the 'ritual' of blooding the young hunters after their first kill either.

Barbaric and totally unnecessary when there are suitable alternatives to control wildlife.

PS - I live in a rural area and have also seen first hand the damage hunts do to land and property in the name of conservation.


I can see the reasons, but the motivation was spiteful.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew!!

Thanks Don. I was expecting an essay length diatribe on why I was wrong/misguided/f***wit.


Feel I have been let off far too easily Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nige101uk wrote:
Phew!!

Thanks Don. I was expecting an essay length diatribe on why I was wrong/misguided/f***wit.


Feel I have been let off far too easily Smile


Let off? I'm, the one on dodgy ground here, Nige. Something had to be done about hunting, but it seemed like a pure metropolitan vote chaser to me. Well, it does now I've been in the sticks for over two decades. Hunting that way might have been barbaric but for many it was a way of life so it should have been handled better.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ban on hunting was obviously inspired by a certain amount of spite against a percieved vision of the hunting toffs. Not sure that is anywhere near as spiteful as the current Tory/Liberal attacks on the poor & sick or as offensive as reducing corporation tax and the levy on selling shares at the same time though.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don wrote:
nige101uk wrote:
Phew!!

Thanks Don. I was expecting an essay length diatribe on why I was wrong/misguided/f***wit.


Feel I have been let off far too easily Smile


Let off? I'm, the one on dodgy ground here, Nige. Something had to be done about hunting, but it seemed like a pure metropolitan vote chaser to me. Well, it does now I've been in the sticks for over two decades. Hunting that way might have been barbaric but for many it was a way of life so it should have been handled better.


The fox-hunting fraternity fought the banning before during and after using every trick available. The only way to force it through was clinically.

Killing (of many things) has to happen to make our lives better but, IMO, be it a child pulling the wings off a butterfly, kids torturing pets or whatever, inflicting pain and/or death in any way that is more painful than necessary is surely wrong. As it also must be if any pleasure whatsoever is gained from the process. Such things have nothing to town or country, they are to do with being civilsed (or trying to be civilised).

Wasps, though, are obviously exempt from any such discussions.
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