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deepseahoop Level 5 dot.orger


Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 6086 Location: Peoples Republic of South Ruislip
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: Conservatives |
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anyone got anything positive to say?  _________________ Crying won't help you praying won't do you no good |
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Don dot.org legend


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I've never voted Conservative in my life, but if they do get us back on track then I'll be tempted. And I like our new Tory MP.
It's solidly Tory down here - more so since the last Labour government made it clear than anyone outside the cities was lower than the shit on its shoes. The hunting ban was based purely on prejudice. _________________ I'm Ray Gardner. I drink Blackcurrant Tango. Come and get me!
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Stan Level 4 dot.orger


Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 3843 Location: N3
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: Conservatives |
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| deepseahoop wrote: | anyone got anything positive to say?  |
I have. They're attempting to control & reduce the wild spending & deficit created by Labour.
That's got to be a good thing, right? _________________ next year, we'll be champions.. |
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RLHOOP Level 5 dot.orger


Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 6591 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Fiscal responsibilty is nothing to be frowned on. Wasting tax payers money and overspending has to be.
Ask that question to the IMF and see what their response is. Oh, sorry they have already answered. |
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daniel Level 3 dot.orger


Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 1819 Location: Here, there, every phuqing where
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I demand a drinking game based on the Tory Party Conference. Something like two fingers (oo-er Missus) for every mention of "hard working families", four fingers for "fiscal responsibility" and down your pint when the camera pans to an old codger who has fallen asleep. Get to work people. |
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deepseahoop Level 5 dot.orger


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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: |
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sorry was that 2 fingers to hard working families! really pissed off as i use my child benefit to pay for the beer's before footie on a saturday _________________ Crying won't help you praying won't do you no good |
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waynes tash dotorgsponsor


Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 205 Location: Peoples Republic of Kent
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| there will be no more fruit shoots and cheesy string for my kids at breakfast then. |
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arriviste Level 1 dot.orger

Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Posts: 259
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Conservatives |
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| deepseahoop wrote: | anyone got anything positive to say?  | Yes. If we wait long enough they'll all be dead one day. |
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Exile Level 3 dot.orger


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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Conservatives |
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| arriviste wrote: | | Yes. If we wait long enough they'll all be dead one day. |
You think?
To go all W13. The children's show Doctor Who is actually a secret testing ground. When Maggie looks like she's failing she will be transplanted into a Davros machine. As for the conservative they are actual daleks and will exterminate the lower classes as they are taking up too much room.
Who said hunting was banned? _________________ Apols to Jake Burns
Gimme a Rangers that's got back the Great
a race of winners not left in a State
And only the helpless get left at the gate
Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme
Cos, I'm all right, I'm all right
QPR, fly the flag |
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nige101uk Level 3 dot.orger


Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 1707 Location: West Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Don wrote: | | The hunting ban was based purely on prejudice. |
Maybe getting out of my depth here but surely the hunting ban was based on 2 things:
1. Most people (accepted that a lot of them don't live in the countryside) wanted it banned
2. That in a 'civilised' society how can going out with a pack of dogs that have been starved for days on end to rip another animal to pieces be seen as right?
Lets not get into the 'ritual' of blooding the young hunters after their first kill either.
Barbaric and totally unnecessary when there are suitable alternatives to control wildlife.
PS - I live in a rural area and have also seen first hand the damage hunts do to land and property in the name of conservation. _________________ 'It's A Game Of Two Halves' by Frederick RJ Hartman OUT NOW at http://www.beatentrackpublishing.com, Foyles of London, The QPR Superstore and all good bookshops |
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Don dot.org legend


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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| nige101uk wrote: | | Don wrote: | | The hunting ban was based purely on prejudice. |
Maybe getting out of my depth here but surely the hunting ban was based on 2 things:
1. Most people (accepted that a lot of them don't live in the countryside) wanted it banned
2. That in a 'civilised' society how can going out with a pack of dogs that have been starved for days on end to rip another animal to pieces be seen as right?
Lets not get into the 'ritual' of blooding the young hunters after their first kill either.
Barbaric and totally unnecessary when there are suitable alternatives to control wildlife.
PS - I live in a rural area and have also seen first hand the damage hunts do to land and property in the name of conservation. |
I can see the reasons, but the motivation was spiteful. _________________ I'm Ray Gardner. I drink Blackcurrant Tango. Come and get me! |
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nige101uk Level 3 dot.orger


Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 1707 Location: West Lancashire
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Phew!!
Thanks Don. I was expecting an essay length diatribe on why I was wrong/misguided/f***wit.
Feel I have been let off far too easily  _________________ 'It's A Game Of Two Halves' by Frederick RJ Hartman OUT NOW at http://www.beatentrackpublishing.com, Foyles of London, The QPR Superstore and all good bookshops |
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Don dot.org legend


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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| nige101uk wrote: | Phew!!
Thanks Don. I was expecting an essay length diatribe on why I was wrong/misguided/f***wit.
Feel I have been let off far too easily  |
Let off? I'm, the one on dodgy ground here, Nige. Something had to be done about hunting, but it seemed like a pure metropolitan vote chaser to me. Well, it does now I've been in the sticks for over two decades. Hunting that way might have been barbaric but for many it was a way of life so it should have been handled better. _________________ I'm Ray Gardner. I drink Blackcurrant Tango. Come and get me! |
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DroopStreetOldBoys Level 2 dot.orger


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The ban on hunting was obviously inspired by a certain amount of spite against a percieved vision of the hunting toffs. Not sure that is anywhere near as spiteful as the current Tory/Liberal attacks on the poor & sick or as offensive as reducing corporation tax and the levy on selling shares at the same time though. |
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DAVEf dot.org vip


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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| Don wrote: | | nige101uk wrote: | Phew!!
Thanks Don. I was expecting an essay length diatribe on why I was wrong/misguided/f***wit.
Feel I have been let off far too easily  |
Let off? I'm, the one on dodgy ground here, Nige. Something had to be done about hunting, but it seemed like a pure metropolitan vote chaser to me. Well, it does now I've been in the sticks for over two decades. Hunting that way might have been barbaric but for many it was a way of life so it should have been handled better. |
The fox-hunting fraternity fought the banning before during and after using every trick available. The only way to force it through was clinically.
Killing (of many things) has to happen to make our lives better but, IMO, be it a child pulling the wings off a butterfly, kids torturing pets or whatever, inflicting pain and/or death in any way that is more painful than necessary is surely wrong. As it also must be if any pleasure whatsoever is gained from the process. Such things have nothing to town or country, they are to do with being civilsed (or trying to be civilised).
Wasps, though, are obviously exempt from any such discussions. |
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