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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:54 pm    Post subject: Sour grapes Reply with quote

well I don't think so....

1) Swansea have to be the most boring team in Christendom.....holy moly how do they have anyone want to sign up for a season ticket to watch that every week?

2) their keeper lives a charmed life - whats the point of taking 3 or 4 minutes just to get the ball to the half way line? Would you go watch that every week ?

3) whole game plan is based around taking the lead and passing the ball to death and sucking the drive out of the oppostion.

4) Rangers were enept and once behind had no plan B - Plan A should have been to push them into their half and defend their continual back 4 passes under pressure. That didn't happen for whatever reason and Hughes etc needs to address that. We all know what Swansea's game plan every week, their should be no surprises here...sort it out. Good cricket teams employ a strategy for getting every player out, we employed nothing by way of dealing with their continual passing game. Manager at fault.

5) working to a plan is OK, but once it was obvious Mackie had the beating of the back LH two for Swansea, give him the fooking ball !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6 This is not rocket science - if you see a player doing well, support his efforts by passing to him, not keep to plan A all the time which appeared to be Taarabt / Hoilett as the way forward - ie Left hand side, NO ! it was the Right hand side giving us most chances.

7) SWP is not, repeat, NOT a footballer. He is an overrated player who happens - God knows how - to have duped various managers into believing he can play. This is simple stuff, move forward / pass. If you cannot pass to one of out players, check back.

Taking a shot and hoofing it into Row 3 as you have done every bloody time I've watched you MR Phillips is not playing football at a professional level. You are sadly Championship level at best. Take your England caps and Ebay them. Your kids will be embarassed when you tell them you've got England Caps and cannot even pass to them in the park.

Cool it was hot - it was hot for both sides, you've just got back from the Far East specifically to no doubt outline what may be afoot in the next couple of weeks or so. get on with it. Same for both sides.

9) When our old friend Mr Dyer plays well, starting ahead of Mr Wright Phillps and scores 2 you know there's something seriously wrong with our game plan / buying policy. Just remember Mr SWP goes home every week sitting on north of £25k every week for that. it would impress us all if he were to look up and pass to one of our players occasionally when he gets near the opposition box

10) I'll be down the park tomorrow and later in the season, I don't think I'll see anything as woefull as our "defending" as shown by Mr Onuoha or was it Mrs Onuoha...if you think you can earn money as a footballer your letting down you fellow players and all the supporters, walk away now. We appear to have lost the values of good footballers, at whatever level, that somtimes hoofing the ball out is the percentage ball - not chipping it into the path of the opposition forward. Kids level football which I'm paying nearly a Grand a year to watch.

Before the start of the game there was a general agreement between fellow supporters ( around me ) that this was the best squad ever fielded in the 50 odd years I've been attending.........WTF

Its now turned 12.00 and if I were Mr Hughes I'd still have them in there bollocking them 'til kingdom come..I've not calmed down and neither should they.

Disgrace.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: Sour grapes Reply with quote

Stans left foot wrote:
well I don't think so....

1) Swansea have to be the most boring team in Christendom.....holy moly how do they have anyone want to sign up for a season ticket to watch that every week?


Yes, it was absolutely dire. Heard a lot of their fans moaning on the way home. The small solace I can take from today is knowing I won't be watching football like their's all season.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onouha looked harper to me than either Clint Hill or Antonio Ferdinand who could equally fall into he scapegoat category today
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only assume the original poster's comments about Swansea are tongue in cheek?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no their not, as I see it, their as boring as hell.

wouldn't watch them ever again. dire.

you go watch them if you feel different, up to you

trust me any team that takes in excess of 3 minutes to get the ball TO the half way line, and them turns back , you may call that total football....I call it timewasting crap.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the sounds of it Swansea's play wouldn't show up so well on the highlights - funny though that Hoillett's go from distance was on Match of the Day but not the extended highlights on SKY - strange!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, I'd hate to see us win 5-0 away from home. That is just SO boring. Imagine the shite journey home...... Give me trips to Craven Cottage and Stamford Bridge every time......
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought Swansea were both smart and actually quite enjoyable to watch ( if it wasn't against us) - had everything we didn't seem to - a plan, a system
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stansmullet wrote:
i thought Swansea were both smart and actually quite enjoyable to watch ( if it wasn't against us) - had everything we didn't seem to - a plan, a system


As per the OP's reason 4. Did we not play into their hands by having only one up front. The plan was easy to build from the back by the keeper giving the ball to one of the two defenders not marked by Cisse. At least if we had played two up front they would have had to change and we would see if they had a plan B. We made it all too easy for them
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stansmullet wrote:
i thought Swansea were both smart and actually quite enjoyable to watch ( if it wasn't against us) - had everything we didn't seem to - a plan, a system


Agree. Laudrup's added some quality signings from La Liga at bargain prices. Having also seen Cazorla on motd last night it looks like there's good value in signing players from the lesser La Liga clubs at the moment.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you serious Rolling Eyes

you need to separate having possession and doing something with it. Much of their football once they were leading was simply timewasting...you go watch it if you like, not for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 5-0 scoreline suggests Swansea were quite effective with their possession.

I think you're finding fault with the wrong side. We were poor yesterday and Hughes got his tactics totally wrong, that's why we lost.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stansmullet wrote:
i thought Swansea were both smart and actually quite enjoyable to watch ( if it wasn't against us) - had everything we didn't seem to - a plan, a system


They got a lucky break with the first goal but after 35 minutes they were well organised, linked up well and defended comfortably. Everything we lacked.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with the OP here. Swansea were an absolute disgrace, passing the ball around to each other, hogging possession, stopping only occasionally to bang in another goal.

It was almost as if they hadn't understood that we're condiiderably richer than them, and refused to roll over in the appropriate manner. Peasants. It's probably a Welsh thing. I'm sure the other 18 English teams due to visit LR will accord us the due respect that our new found status deserves.
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